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11/9/2011 7:32 AM
 

 

We have specified our cart to use Ounces as the Weight Unit of Measure to calculate shipping.  We have also set up all of our product weights in ounces as well.

BUT, our cart is still calculating shipping in pounds which is causing our customers to receive an error message when checking out because our products are calculated as they weigh 2 lbs. rather than 2 oz..  Error Message: The maximum per package weight for the selected service from the selected country is 150 pounds. 

And lastly, it is also causing shipping rates to be much higher than they should be.

Looking for a solution.

Thank you.

Smith Cart: 4.67
SQL Server: 2008
DNN: 06.00.02

 
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11/9/2011 9:37 AM
 
This is a new issue introduced with 4.67. In previous versions of Smith Cart there was never a choice between lbs. and ounces. The default weight for product detail was always ounces.

Now you are given an option in the CART settings but the option does not carry over to the Product detail page.

All of our products are weighted at 2 ounces but are being measured as 2 lbs causing the ship cost to be inflated, big time.

Prompt attention, please!
 
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11/10/2011 4:28 PM
 
Hi Darren,

Which Shipping Calculator are you currently using?

If you are referring to the "Weight Unit of Measure" field located in the Shipping and Handling Setup section of the Cart Settings, this field was first introduced in v.4.34 however it has not yet been programmed to calculate the Product Weight on the Product Setup screen.

The only area in the Cart that the product weight unit of measure (ounces vs pounds) is used, is the real time shipping calculators UPS, USPS, FedEx or CanadaPost in the checkout. Depending on your carrier the weight can be calculated as either ounces or pounds.

Thanks,
 
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11/11/2011 9:32 AM
 

Hi Kevin,

We are using the UPS Shipping Calculator.

Yes, I was thinking the "Weight Unit of Measure" field was live and would be used in calculating the shipping cost. 

So is my assumption correct that if you use the USPS or CanadaPost Shipping Calculator the weight is entered in ounces on the Product Setup page? If you use the UPS or FedEx Shipping Calculator the the number entered in the Product Setup page is in pounds?

If those assumptions are correct then I need to be able to enter fractional pound entry for a pair of socks. The weight of the pair of socks is 3 ounces which equals 0 .19 of a pound. I see the database field for Weight in table Smith_Products is decimal(12,2) so the database can handle value. When I enter 0.19 as the weight in the Product Setup I get an error message "Please Enter Valid Weight". Can this be corrected, this field use to accept decimals when it was labeled ounces in an older Smith Cart version?

Thanks,
Darren

 
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11/11/2011 2:27 PM
 

Hi Darren,
 

Yes you are correct, if you use the USPS or CanadaPost Shipping Calculator the weight is entered in ounces on the Product Setup page. If you use the UPS or FedEx Shipping Calculator the weight entered in the Product Setup page is in pounds.

The Product Setup screen will not allow fractional weights because the shipping carriers (ups, usps, fedex, etc) don't return rates for fractional weights. I would recommend either rounding to the nearest whole number or using the Custom Ship Methods By Weight Shipping Method.

Thanks,

 
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11/17/2011 6:57 AM
 

 

Kevin,

In an older version of SC we are using the UPS Shipping Calculator and we are able to enter fractional weights.

I believe the programming department has made a mistake when rewriting the code. I think the logical way to calculate shipping would be to add the weights of all items in the cart then round up to the next whole number. You are limiting the usability of the cart to people who only sell items that weight more than a pound each and who need to calculate real-time shipping costs from UPS or FedEx. 

Basically if you sell little round bouncy balls that weigh 1 ounce each and someone orders 48 of them, they will pay for 48 pounds of shipping through UPS or FedEx.

Hoping to help make your great product better,

Darren

 
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11/17/2011 3:53 PM
 
Hi Darren,

I understand your concern, however the reason the allowance of decimals being entered on the Product Setup screen the Product Weight field is used by all the real-time Shipping Calculators. UPS does not calculate fractional weights and only calculates in pounds.

I will have our programming dept. look into a possible solution to your scenario when offering products which weigh less than a pound.

Thanks,
 
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11/18/2011 8:41 AM
 

 

Kevin,

I understand the UPS and FedEx requirements of only allowing integers to be passed to calculate shipping cost.

But, let me take you back to the good old' days of Smith Cart version 4.24 (we have this version running for a client right now). Back in the days of version 4.24 only ounces were allowed in the product weight no matter what you picked for your shipping method.

Our client has some products that are 8 ounces and some that are 24 ounces, thus the cart is calculating pounds by dividing the weight by 16 and coming up with 0.5 pounds and 1.5 pounds. My guess is in version 4.24 these weights are being rounded up or cut down to an integer. I assume that if the total shipping weight of an order in cart version 4.24 is less than 1 pound the cart passes UPS or FedEx a weight of 1 pound. I would also guess that if the weight was 1.5 pounds in cart version 4.24 the 0.5 pounds is cut off and only 1 pound is sent to UPS or FedEx. 

Please look at this older code and see if you can provide a hot fix, you've somehow lost functionality in the newer cart versions.

Thanks again,
Darren

 
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11/18/2011 1:43 PM
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Hi Darren,
We just released a hotfix for cart v4.74 that addresses the pounds vs. ounces issue. In the buynow settings when UPS is selected you can select ounces in the "Unit of Measure" dropdown and enter your product weights in ounces. We will email you the 4.74 update.




Scott Kelly
Project Manager
DotNetNuke Consulting, DotNetNuke Store and DNN Ecommerce
 
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