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Joined: 2/2/2012
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Hello fellow smith cart software users.
I have a smith cart site containing over 5k products. Our main source of product data entry has to be the import spreadsheet feature in smith cart, as there are to many products to update them all manually. We've spent the last week or two trying to update our products to 2013 prices and features. Here is a combined list of all the "bugs, tweaks, and qwerks" of smith cart product import spreadsheets.
I hope this information can spare at least someone the migraine that I'm currently having.
1. Make sure that alphanumeric fields that have all numbers (i.e. sku) have a single quote in front of the them as excel converts these fields to numbers or scientific notation in some cases if the number is big enough.
This should be done ONLY for the SKU field. If your price column numbers are being treated as text in the spreadsheet, they will import as $0.00 every time.
2. If you want to charge shipping on any of your imported products, you must give each product a value in the wieght column. The value of "0" or "empty" disallows that product from having a shipping charge of ANY kind.
3. GET ALL THE INFO YOU WILL EVER WANT, AND GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME ON YOUR DESCRIPTION AND IMAGES FIELDS!!!!
Smith cart thinks that if you re-upload an "edited" version of a spreadsheet with the same product SKU's, that all the other fields on the spreadsheet will update. THIS IS NOT TRUE.
a. ANY secondary images outside of the main image and main thumbnail will not update on a re-import. (1st zoom, 2nd main/zoom, 3rd main/zoom)
b. Tabs are ridiculous. I cant pin down the exact cause of this, but it would seem that if any product on the spreadsheet uses a secondary tab (2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th), all the other products on the spreadsheet must use it as well, or it will import incorrectly.
Because of this, one must completely delete the product from the database, and then re-import to have the correct values in all fields. This is VERY problematic, due to the fact that your productID changes. If the search engines had that page indexed, you just broke their link.
YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO IMPORT MORE SECONDARY IMAGES USING THE SPREADSHEET AFTER YOUR FIRST IMPORT. I created a number of images for my products, uploaded them to the proper folder, added them to my spreadsheet, and re-imported. Smith Cart software simply just ignores the changes.
4. There is a character limit programmed into some of the SEO import fields (title, description, keyword, URLKeywords). After importing, check the export of your product database to see which SEO fields were too long, and were truncated.
5. Be careful with the URL keywords field. If you allow a "character return" to sneak into this field, it will break the product page. Here is a formula to check the field, and replace the character return with nothing:
=SUBSTITUTE(AQ2,CHAR(13),"")
Same goes with spaces and so on.
6. The "search term" field is only useful for common misspellings of the product, and here is why.
Smith Cart software has decided it best that it will index for search EVERY word an administrator enters in the product title AND in ALL product tab descriptions.
Let's say I'm selling vegetables on my smith cart site. I create a product, and title it "lettuce". In that product's description I say the sentence, "This lettuce would taste yummy with tomatoes!"
Now - because of that sentence, if a user searches for "tomatoes" on my site - they WILL SEE LETTUCE IN THE RESULTS!!!.
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Joined: 2/2/2012
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Smith dudes.
I'm glad you turned my rant into at least some usable information for people moving forward.
The issue with importing and exporting categories with two or more sub-levels should be as clean as possible. The software is also truncating letters from categories. I can provide examples of this. I highly recommend that you look into this issue.
Secondly - As far as I can tell, the only fields that are "updated" when the import detects an already existing SKU are : categories,sku,productname,unitcost,saleprice,summary,tabname1,productdescription,thumbimage1,largeimage1,titletag,descriptiontag,keywordtag,urlkeywordtag
Fields that I know are NOT being updated properly include: Any secondary tab descriptions (variable), any secondary images, the zoomimage1 field.
I am sure you can appreciate how these bugs can be a critical issue to a store trying to manage 5k products. One mess up in a spreadsheet, and the only way to fix it is to delete all the associated products, and re-import - causing my productID count to go way up, and kill my google index status.
I know you've heard a lot of rants from me over the past year. In my mind, it has been worth it to communicate with you guys the very few flaws with your software. It's SOOO close to being awesome. Every bug we address put's us one step closer to that "perfect" software solution that does everything I need, and actually does everything that it says it's able to.
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Joined: 2/2/2012
Posts: 278
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New issue found with product re-importing.
It would seem that product categories, when re-importing an existing sku, are additive - but not subtractive.
Example: I import a product with categories A and B. I then make a few changes to the product and decide to add it to category C, and remove it from B.
I try the import again with categories A and C.
Product is now listed in categories A, B, and C.
Joy.
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Joined: 2/12/2013
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Might sound simple (but it has taken me a day & a half to work out)
but
You also need to have a Category for each item.
In my experience system was saying import was successful but no products were added. Add a category & import will truley be successful.
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