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5/27/2010 3:11 PM
 

We are finding that our product description data is regularlly and systematically disappearing. Based on my initial assessment I believe what's happening is that admins are going in to edit a product (which happens frequently) and then quickly changing an option and submitting the udate form. But, the Telerik editor sometimes takes a while to load and populate the product description tabs with data. I believe the product is getting updated and submitted before the Telerik editor populates the product description and thus all the product description data gets wiped out during such updates. The form is long enough that you can open the form and click a checkbox without realizing that the production description data hasn't loaded yet. It happens often enough that we are constantly having to reenter product descriptions on many of our products. I might suggest that the Update button not be shown or activated until the form has completely loaded and populated with data.

Thanks, John

 
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5/27/2010 3:53 PM
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Yes I have noticed the telerik editor is slow to load on the product setup screen also. I dont think there is any kind of event that fires when the editor is fully loaded. The page load event is complete I think its the rendering of the telerik editor that is slow. If you know of an event to check out let me know. We are also looking at other options to speed the page load like the following:

  1. Moving the product descrition to their own page
  2. Elimiating the tab control from the products setup page
  3. Only using one rich text editor and dynamically populating the descriptions when a tab is selected

Scott Kelly
Project Manager
DotNetNuke Consulting, DotNetNuke Store and DNN Ecommerce
 
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6/4/2010 9:23 AM
 

I'm getting back to this issue and I'm finding much of the time the product description tabs never load when I edit a product. In IE8, I find that if I refresh the page a couple of times, it will eventually appear. In Firefox, I can almost never get it to show up even with over a dozen page refreshes (sometimes it shows up fine the first time but if I have to do a page refresh it never comes back). I'm running the latest version of Firefox (3.6.3). When I use Firebug in Firefox, I discover that it is displaying an error on the page “Sys.InvalidOperationException: owner must be set before initialize” (I'm getting the same erorr in IE too).

I believe this is the reason my product descriptions keep getting wiped out. Have you seen this behavior and do you have any ideas on how this may be resolved?


Thanks, John

 
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6/4/2010 11:55 AM
 

Just to clarify are you saying that the tab names dont load or the actual product description inside the rich text editor dont load or both.

-Scott


Scott Kelly
Project Manager
DotNetNuke Consulting, DotNetNuke Store and DNN Ecommerce
 
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6/4/2010 12:18 PM
 

Scott,

Thanks for the response. The tabs, the Telerik editor, nor the data appear. The entire section remains blank and it generates this error. When it loads correctly, they all load normally and this error isn't reported. The only abnormalies in my DNN configuration is that I'm using ifinity URL Master and extensionless page names.

Just in case it helps, I'm including a screen capture showing what I see, or don't see. I've also used Fiddler to capture all the filenames being captured in the page load, in case that is of any help to you.

Thanks again, John

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6/4/2010 1:41 PM
 

If you turn off the ifinity url master does it work?


Scott Kelly
Project Manager
DotNetNuke Consulting, DotNetNuke Store and DNN Ecommerce
 
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6/4/2010 2:01 PM
 

No, turned off ifinity URL Master, flushed all cache, restarted app, refreshed browsers, exactly same results...

Thanks, John

 
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6/4/2010 2:05 PM
 

What is your server environment, hosting company, shared or dedicated or virtual, cpu, windows, iis, sql server, dnn version?


Scott Kelly
Project Manager
DotNetNuke Consulting, DotNetNuke Store and DNN Ecommerce
 
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6/4/2010 2:30 PM
 

I built the server hardware myself (as I've been doing professionally for the past 24 years) on an Intel platform and installed the OS and everything else by hand personally. It's located in Dallas' premiere co-location facility (as it has been for the past 16 years (with numerous upgrades since 1994). I've been running a stable DNN intallation on this box for the past 7 years and all my other modules (about 100) are running fine. Here are some of the spec:

  • Intel LGA775, Core 2 Duo, E7300, 8GB DDR3 RAM, WD Enterprise SAS2 RAID 0
  • Windows 2008 Server, 64-bit SP2
  • IIS7.0 Integrated Pipeline
  • .Net 3.5 SP1
  • SQL Server 2008, Standard Edition, 64-bit, SP1
  • DNN 5.4.2 Community Edition with no core modifications

Hope that helps! Thanks again, John

 
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6/4/2010 2:43 PM
 

Environment looks good. The error you posted above was that from the dnn event viewer or the windows log? The reason I ask is because it doesnt look like a dnn event viewer error.


Scott Kelly
Project Manager
DotNetNuke Consulting, DotNetNuke Store and DNN Ecommerce
 
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6/4/2010 3:33 PM
 

No, there is no error logged in DNN or windows. This is simply an error that appears in the browser periodically - like a javascript error notification.

The tabs display fine when logged out (viewing the product detail page). But, as soon as I log in, the tabs, the Telerik editor, and all tab data disappears (whether viewing the product detail page or editing the product record). Strange behavior. Not sure where else to look. Perhaps it is a Telerik editor issue but I haven't seen this behavior in any other module.

I'm traveling to this client's office on Monday and hope to have it resolved by the time I give them a face-to-face demonstration of the site.

Thanks again for all your help, John

 
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